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Old 03-04-2004, 02:41 PM
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thanks for that info.let me ask,the water tank that you fill,,whats the material of it and approx dimensions?you got me thinkinking about my boat.thanks again
It is custom made to fit the hull exactly (actually it was moulded in place!) out of regular fibreglass with a built in 3000 gallon per hour (thats three thousand imperial gallons!) bilge pump to empty it either through the deck (so you can see the water coming out) or through the transom using a swimming pool diverter valve and 2" big bore pipe!

Using a stern pick up we can pretty much fill the thing as fast as we need to - the hardware is available from the US - try Stainless marine - come back to me and I'll find out where ours came from if you need to know.

One very important thing - you need AT LEAST the same amount of breather diameter as the inlet pipe - otherwise the resulting air pressure the first time you fill the thing up will result in water and shattered fibreglass going everywhere!

If you want to know whether it will work or not - get a sandbag of the approximate size you think you can take and secure it in the nose of the boat on a rough day and see if it helps - you must take the bag out of the boat to compare as it might make a differance in the cockpit as well!

Personally I would go with whatever fits and how the boat handles, but we used to run about 50 litres / kilos in a 18' race boat with a Merc 2 litre 200hp outboard running mid seventies in race trim.

Don't forget changing the pro can help as much as anything in choppy conditions!

Feel free to ask any more questions if I havn't explained it very well - I have been known to ramble a bit!
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Old 03-04-2004, 02:45 PM
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Sounds like you have it together on the race format. some for you and some for the spectators. Maybe APBA should take some lessons from the other side of the pond. Thanks for the explanation.!
Sounds better than it is - Unfortunately we suffer from shambolic organisation from time to time like bouys laid out too late and in the wrong places - course changes at the last minute - Poor comentary - things like that, but I hope things will change for the better this season.

By the way I'll be happy to come over and talk to your guys if you get me a ticket! I'd love to have a run in one of your poker runs - they're not quite the same over here!
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Old 03-04-2004, 03:22 PM
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[B]Sounds better than it is - Unfortunately we suffer from shambolic organisation from time to time like bouys laid out too late and in the wrong places - course changes at the last minute - Poor comentary - things like that, but I hope things will change for the better this season.

That Sounds like APBA and SBI over here. Guess they are all the same.

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By the way I'll be happy to come over and talk to your guys if you get me a ticket! I'd love to have a run in one of your poker runs - they're not quite the same over here!
we'd love to have you.:D But the plane ticket If you brought your boat over here to run in some of the Poker Runs, they wouldn't know what to do with you. You would sure confuse them:D
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Old 03-05-2004, 04:09 AM
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we'd love to have you.:D But the plane ticket If you brought your boat over here to run in some of the Poker Runs, they wouldn't know what to do with you. You would sure confuse them:D
:D :D :D What's the confusion? Mind you I suppose you don't get many 2 litre boats doing 70 mph over there?
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Old 03-05-2004, 01:17 PM
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:D :D :D What's the confusion? Mind you I suppose you don't get many 2 litre boats doing 70 mph over there?
They are too used to all the fancy fiberglass. You would probably embarrass some people:D :D :D
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Old 03-05-2004, 02:07 PM
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Too late - already done that over here! :D
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Old 03-06-2004, 12:19 AM
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Old 03-06-2004, 07:52 AM
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:D :D :D What's the confusion? Mind you I suppose you don't get many 2 litre boats doing 70 mph over there?
no,we have them here alot of them down south,,,,their called bass boats:D

on the water tank,i was thinking of a bladder(rubber)then it could expand and shrink inside the holding tank.i'm sure someone will talk about my weight bag experience:D thats another story
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Old 03-06-2004, 02:20 PM
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Great plan BUT!.......... What happens when you are collecting water at say 60 mph from your stern mounted pickup and you're not sure when it's full?

And it it's in a holding tank what is the rubber for?
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the rubber bladder,like in race cars, when completely shrunk,then fill,it will go up and down inside its holding tank.when its full is another problem.
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Old 03-06-2004, 04:04 PM
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no,we have them here alot of them down south,,,,their called bass boats:D

Sutphen is right, but I'd like to see those bass boats in the water that Cookee runs in do 10 mph, let alone 70. I had one fool try to run me on the Delaware River he was doing fine till we hit some cruiser wakes. He got pounded, and backed way off:D :D :D
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Old 03-07-2004, 07:15 AM
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I suppose we mostly race in force 3 to 4 winds, and depending on the wind / tide etc that means 2 or 3 foot waves up to 10 to 12 foot swells offshore when it picks up!

Up untill this season we have been racing against 24' batboats - You have the inboard version racing over there - and we are always beating them in the rough although they generally have a higher top speed in the flat.

We are racing with the other RIBs this season to promote the leisure version of the race boat and are confident of some good results - but anything can happen in racing!

By the way never seen a bass boat over here - have they got quite flat bottoms and designed for flat water?
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Old 03-07-2004, 08:23 AM
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Up untill this season we have been racing against 24' batboats - You have the inboard version racing over there - and we are always beating them in the rough although they generally have a higher top speed in the flat.

boy,you never hear that:D the bat boat supposedly rules everywhere.i personally know they where beat by our boat in the p4 class when we raced,it was fun beating them out of the corners then watch them blatently break out justice was.....they flipped in the turn:D oops
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Don't forget we were racing against the 2 litre outboard version and they hate going downwind! In a following sea they are too pointy and act like a submarine!
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Old 03-07-2004, 02:40 PM
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By the way never seen a bass boat over here - have they got quite flat bottoms and designed for flat water?
They are made for lakes. The goal is to be VERY fast, so they have the most time possible to be fishing, and the least time possible traveling. The tournaments are timed. Some of these things weigh Under 2000 lbs, and have 300 HP outboards. They can run more than 80 mph. Very flat bottom, no freeboard.
http://www.rangerboats.com/pages/boats/522bottom.cfm
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