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Handi Cap 30
02-15-2006, 09:13 AM
repost of pic so it wouldn't get lost in poodle pics thread.what do you think of the lower?looks like it will grab more water on the lower part of the blades as well as the sides.

AMBUSHER
02-15-2006, 09:16 AM
Damn, looks good to me. but like Bill said the nose on that bad boy could use some work.

Handi Cap 30
02-15-2006, 09:22 AM
Damn, looks good to me. but like Bill said the nose on that bad boy could use some work.

yeah i changed up my post alittle,after really looking at the lines.the nose,i'm now on the fence.i'd have to test.then epoxy a point and see if it was better.

but i really like to know how much,,i say 18k.:booze1:

AMBUSHER
02-16-2006, 09:41 AM
From http://www.mercuryracing.com

New Mercury Racing 700 SCi Sterndrive - Integrated Package Features All-New ACE Drive
(FOND DU LAC, Wis. ., Feb. 16, 2006) - Mercury Racing has revolutionized the sport boat industry once again with an all-new integrated sterndrive engine package. The 700 SCi is packed with game changing technology – from the PCM 03 managed boost bypass control valve to the dry-sump ACE drive designed and developed exclusively by Mercury Racing.

The 700 SCi is based off the same CNC machined 502 cubic inch cylinder block as the 525 EFI and 600 SCi. The intercooler, made of copper-nickel alloy called “CuproNickel“ for enhanced corrosion resistance, is 0.75” taller than that used on the 600SCi for improved engine cooling. Boost bypass is achieved via an internal cast passage. The intake also features port fuel injection and a fuel cross over passage which eliminates tee fittings by routing fuel to both port and starboard fuel rails for enhanced engine aesthetics.

An induction hardened, micro-alloy crankshaft features larger journal radii for enhanced strength and durability. Connecting rods feature a floating wrist pin as well as stronger rod bolts for enhanced engine durability. A new camshaft design provides increased valve lift for enhanced power and torque. The oil flow rate has been increased for enhanced engine protection throughout the engine operating range. The 700SCi is the first engine to come standard with Mercury Racing’s new universal engine mount system. The new mounts enable OEM boat builders to install the engine in virtually any hull configuration with ease.

The 700SCi is also the first engine to feature Mercury Racing’s new large capacity power steering reservoir. It is intended to eliminate the need for additional after market reservoirs used by boat builders today.

Engine aesthetics are new with the carbon fiber reservoir covers, polished pulleys, and selected components painted slate grey.

Like the 525 EFI, 600 SCi, 850 SCi and 1075 SCi, the 700 SCi comes equipped with the Mercury exclusive Propulsion Control Module (PCM) 03 microprocessor. Combining the powerful engine management computer with a 3.3 Liter Lysholm screw type supercharger, roller camshaft, and sequential fuel injection results in impeccable idle quality, instant throttle response and unmatched performance throughout the 4800-5200 rpm rated engine operating range. The 700 SCi’s use of new PCM idle speed control strategies, along with an exclusive dual shift switch and coupler design, result in ultra-smooth shifting for the dry-sump ACE drive.

The PCM 03 computer also enables individual cylinder control. This ability to optimize fuel, spark timing and knock control independently for each cylinder enhances engine running quality, performance, fuel economy, and durability.

Higher fuel pressure demands are met with an electric fuel pump. The engine is also equipped with fuel cooling and a mechanical pump to combat vapor lock. To improve packaging and reduce fuel connections, a custom billet aluminum housing was created to accommodate the fuel pressure regulator and water separating fuel filter.

Supercharger boost is variable. A boost bypass control valve, electronically activated by the PCM 03 microprocessor, continuously adjusts the amount of boost needed to provide consistent horsepower. Under optimum ambient conditions, the boost bypass control valve will open to adjust for the lower boost required to obtain 700 crankshaft horsepower. The PCM 03 controller closes the bypass control valve, to provide active torque management throughout the engine operating rpm range and additional boost required to maintain a consistent 700 horsepower when operating in sub-optimal running conditions.

The 700 SCi comes equipped with the digital SmartCraft Controller Area Network (CAN) system, a network of sensors that proactively monitor engine functions. The next wave in boating, SmartCraft Integrated Marine Technology from Mercury links power, controls and internal and external sensors to provide precise data on all boat functions at a glance. The system monitors a variety of vital engine functions including fuel flow, fuel range, fuel used, and RPM, along with water depth, trim angle, water pressure and battery voltage.

A 14-pin Deutsch connector on engine harness enables ignition functions and SmartCraft functions to be incorporated into one boat harness, saving rigging time.

The PCM 03 also drives the exclusive Engine GuardianTM System. Engine Guardian monitors engine functions to forewarn of possible problems that could lead to engine damage. This “smart” technology not only detects and alerts the boater of a problem; it processes the data and reduces power to a maximum, safe level that allows the boater to continue operation. Engine Guardian also has the ability to proactively help prevent engine overheating by sensing not only engine temperature but cooling water pressure as well. By sensing water pressure, and temperature, the system can provide advanced warning to the PCM 03 control module, which then reduces engine power before temperature related engine damage takes place.
Like the 525 EFI and 600 SCi, the 700SCi features a factory installed closed-cooling system. Five-year coolant increases corrosion protection, reducing maintenance costs and hassle. The system cools the entire engine cylinder block and aluminum cylinder heads. CMI “cool collar” Sweeper Headers feature a new alloy for enhanced saltwater corrosion resistance and durability. A multipoint manual water drain system makes winterizing easier.

The 700SCi is the fourth engine to be accredited by Mercury Racing’s T.E.A.M. (Total Engine Application Management) initiative. The standardized TEAM process ensures proper installation of the engine with factory specified components, providing maximum performance along with unmatched quality and durability. The 700 SCi will be available to OEM boat builders and dealers who agree to the terms of the TEAM accreditation process.

The ACE Drive
Mercury Racing has just released an all-new dry-sump stern drive named the ACE. The ACE is designed to fill the gap between the race-proven Bravo One XR and dry-sump Six drives.

The ACE drive development is a result of our responding to customer needs. The drive features a combination of the best of Bravo One XR and dry-sump Six drive assets packed in a housing which is an art form following function. The first task was to develop a drive which is robust enough to handle engines between 600 and 800 horsepower. The ACE delivers with an input torque rating of 800 ft-lbs.

Another benefit: OEM boat builders can install the engine in the same position of engines equipped with Bravo drives. Mercury Racing hydrodynamic engineers responded with an integrated transmission which sits within the transom assembly - between the engine bell housing and the drive itself. The compact size of the transmission enables builders to install the engine in the same location (fore and aft) as a standard Bravo in close couple applications. The compact, integrated transmission results in an engine/transom plate/drive package that is nearly 200 pounds lighter than a comparable engine outfitted with a standard size transmission and dry-sump Six drive. The transmission design allows for use of a “driveline kit“ for forward engine applications. The Bravo XR drive, combined with the Mercury Racing PCM control strategies, received high marks in customer satisfaction in regards to shifting. The Mercury Racing exclusive transmission design features a Bravo-like cone clutch mechanism – resulting in smooth shifting characteristics.

Both the drive and transmission feature dry-sump lubrication for higher efficiency and reduced operating temperatures. The all-new gearcase features a wedge style skeg with an innovative, patent pending rear water pickup design. The new water pick-up is interchangeable with available accessory pickups for multiple hull-type configurations and speeds.

Stainless steel propshaft and hub adapters enable both the five-blade Maximus propeller and our new line of CNC machined five-blade cleaver propellers to be used. Performance of either propeller is maximized thanks to a prop hub venting system built into rear of the drive. The system forces air down over the cleaver hub or through the Maximus hub – enhancing hole shot and acceleration as well as reducing drag when the gearcase torpedo is submerged.
The dry-sump ACE drive comes standard with an integrated steering system, similar to that used on the dry-sump Six drive. An integrated tie bar attachment features a tucked-in design for betterswim platform clearance. An alternative tie bar attaching point accepts dry-sump Six drive tie bar hardware. A digital trim indicator comes standard with a steering position indicator available as an option. Both trim and steering position may be viewed using Mercury Racing’s SystemView – Race Edition monitor. A new trim pump design delivers faster trim out speed when compared to a Six drive. A robust bracket enhances trim pump durability.

The dry-sump ACE drive was designed with the both the OEM boat builder and servicing dealer in mind. The unique through-hull location of the compact transmission enables the transmission to be installed after the engine is first mounted. This “reverse install” feature is especially handy in boats with limited engine room space. Access to the transmission from the transom also allows the transmission to be removed and serviced without having to pull the complete engine. The removable transom assembly cowl, modeled after the Integrated Transom System (ITS), enables easier access and servicing to various transom components

Handi Cap 30
02-16-2006, 09:44 AM
i like pictures.:ev1l danc

Handi Cap 30
02-16-2006, 09:46 AM
easier read.:ev1l danc

Viper31
02-18-2006, 08:40 AM
ACE = Actual Cost Expensive

Handi Cap 30
02-18-2006, 08:43 AM
ACE = Actual Cost Expensive

thats great and its so soon from the release.very quick.:ev1l danc

nortechJ
02-18-2006, 09:32 AM
$82,000 and they will only sell it as a package.... screw that!!! buy a good 850HP from eickert,zul,chief,jc,sterling..and get the Konrad drive... all for about 60grand!! with 150 more ponies and better internals!!

birdog
02-18-2006, 10:12 AM
$82,000 and they will only sell it as a package.... screw that!!! buy a good 850HP from eickert,zul,chief,jc,sterling..and get the Konrad drive... all for about 60grand!! with 150 more ponies and better internals!!

I'm trying to add that up.....Konrad with inner & outer Transom plates,Hydraulic steering,Trans, 700hp EFI Blower motor with ALL externals.
Headers & one year warranty.

I wonder how much $ diff there really is ?

MIKES280
02-18-2006, 10:17 AM
$82,000 and they will only sell it as a package.... screw that!!! buy a good 850HP from eickert,zul,chief,jc,sterling..and get the Konrad drive... all for about 60grand!! with 150 more ponies and better internals!!just like everything else that merc. does give it one year and you will be able to buy it by it self,they will be glade to sell it to you .:ev1l danc

nortechJ
02-18-2006, 11:41 AM
I'm trying to add that up.....Konrad with inner & outer Transom plates,Hydraulic steering,Trans, 700hp EFI Blower motor with ALL externals.
Headers & one year warranty.

I wonder how much $ diff there really is ?Konrad box,trans,drive and steering around 16 to 17k motor with everything 45 to 50k and more than 700 hp high side is 67k low side 61ish that still looks better to me other than maybe the merc has better resale.. maybe.... like i said this is just a Chevy gen6 block nothing special... stock steel Chevy crank and rods..from someone like eickert you get a dart block, Carrillo rods and sonny Bryant crank sounds better to me! also it is not put together by some union worker at gm:rolleyes: .. merc does not put the short block together...

nortechJ
02-18-2006, 11:51 AM
just like everything else that merc. does give it one year and you will be able to buy it by it self,they will be glade to sell it to you .:ev1l dancwhen i talked to them Thursday the said that the drive would NOT be available by itself and they have no planes in the future to release it as of now...konrad give you a 1 year deal to so does most engine builder at that hp leval...

birdog
02-18-2006, 12:23 PM
Konrad box,trans,drive and steering around 16 to 17k motor with everything 45 to 50k and more than 700 hp high side is 67k low side 61ish that still looks better to me other than maybe the merc has better resale.. maybe.... like i said this is just a Chevy gen6 block nothing special... stock steel Chevy crank and rods..from someone like eickert you get a dart block, Carrillo rods and sonny Bryant crank sounds better to me! also it is not put together by some union worker at gm:rolleyes: .. merc does not put the short block together...

From what I understand...MERC RACING hand builds & Dynos every engine.Not Mercruiser

I am a HUGE fan of Konrad by the way...I was looking for a TRS Top Gun to convert when i found mine with Vs

I was curious on pricing for the package tho with everything

MIKES280
02-18-2006, 01:57 PM
when i talked to them Thursday the said that the drive would NOT be available by itself and they have no planes in the future to release it as of now...konrad give you a 1 year deal to so does most engine builder at that hp leval...yea thats what they said about the its with the shorty to and there one in the floor at my shop now

Madpoodle
02-19-2006, 08:49 PM
IMO, the Konrad looks rather crude compared to the Merc ITS... Kinda like a Stellings box with a Konrad drive hanging off it....

Pics to follow one day after I get some sleep...


BTW, the heads on the 700 have Mercruiser cast in em.....

Madpoodle
02-21-2006, 04:01 AM
Err, that should have said "mercury" cast in em....

Comparison......

Madpoodle
02-21-2006, 04:04 AM
"slightly" more finished looking.....

The MTI cat runnning them at the show sounded perfect... Idles, in and out of gear, dockside manners Miss Manners would be proud of.. I did hear they lost a tranny howeveer, but since you just drop the drive to change it they were back in the water pretty quick...

Romli
02-21-2006, 06:34 PM
Is it simply an incredible coincidence that the new Konrad and Mercury drives are called "Ace"?!?!?!?!?!?

Zone 5
02-21-2006, 07:53 PM
Is it simply an incredible coincidence that the new Konrad and Mercury drives are called "Ace"?!?!?!?!?!?

What is up with the name? The Merc shows ace all the way around. The Konrad shows it on the rear only. Someone who was there, whats the deal?

Zudnic
02-22-2006, 04:07 PM
Is it simply an incredible coincidence that the new Konrad and Mercury drives are called "Ace"?!?!?!?!?!?

I would not want to be Konrad if its an incredible coincidence.

Have I ever mentioned I've been invovled in alot of lawsuits?

A few years ago I was working with an air bed maker. This company had some potential to cut into sales of another manufacturer; we had a license deal for use of a huge mattress companies name. We came out with a personnel number selection remote at the same time as another bigger rival. Guess who won the huge lawsuit? :big smile